Education; In What?
A question that has nagged me for some time is how the
I came to the conclusion that it isn’t possible, at least not with honest employment and any long term sustainability.
The American geophysicist M. King Hubbert made observation’s (beginning in 1926) that should all of our citizen be engaged in productive employment, natural resources could not physically match the consumption.
While Hubbert became the best known American geophysicist in the world due to his now proven theory of peak oil, his studies in other sectors of balance and depletion were nothing short of genius.
Hubbert went on to observe that we have a growing educated class, many of who are little more than high paid paper shufflers. His summary was that at some point, regardless of make work paper shufflers, the work week would have to be reduced to match diminishing resources.
I don’t believe that Hubbert could have possibly predicted the ignorance and greed that would be displayed by his fellow man, as is cur
As an example of productivity, let’s consider a university educated $150,000 per year wage earner who regularly travels across the country to give a “canned” two hour presentation. With flight, meals, hotel, social hour and two days dedicated to the assignment, the minimum cost incurred is $3,000.
What could a person possibly say in a two hour canned presentation that would be worth $3,000? As
We also need to consider that this $150K wage earner spent only two hours of two days in actual production. How is that possible to balance with the cost? It isn’t, it’s all misguided perception. Having a college degree has in this instance, somehow been parlayed into a free pass from any measured productivity.
You may be thinking that this person has earned the right to be productive less than 13% of the time by working hard at college and getting the coveted degree. Fair enough, let’s consider a different type of worker.
A master manual machinist has necessarily spent years honing his trade. Complex math, physics, engineering, and metallurgy are employed daily in his work. To be a truly good manual machinist takes a sort of genius intelligence that few possess.
Now say that this master machinist pulls up a lawn chair next to his lathe and stretches out for all but two hours of two eight hour shifts. He also orders in breakfast, lunch and dinner on the company that he works for and has a rental car dropped off for his convenience. When asked what he thinks he’s doing, he replies, “I’m cashing in all of my education and experience.”
I’m certainly not anti-education, I’m married to a teacher and I strive to educate myself in some manner each and every day. Yet, something went terribly wrong with both our educational system and our perspective as to which sectors of education are valuable.
I need to continue this thread tomorrow because I think there are important discoveries to be made in this area. How has our employment remained balanced? You may be surprised.


Hi Mike,
As you’re well aware, unemployment data provided by the government are notoriously inaccurate and paint a distorted picture of what’s actually happening regarding US employment. If I recall correctly, one of your readers linked to Kevin Phillips’ article in the May Harpers, “Numbers racket: Why the economy is worse than we know.” http://www.harpers.org/media/pages/2008/05/pdf/HarpersMagazine-2008-05-0082023.pdf
But, the actual unemployment figure is not your point. One of the most surprising assertions, to me anyhow, made by Hubbert is the impossibility of “full” or even “near full” employment, at least in the productive sense. Once you accept his proposition, it makes total sense that we have seen the dramatic increase of paper and talk shuffling jobs. I think that another area of employment increase has been performing magic tricks with money through mathematic algorithms that nobody understands, but result in the appearance and disappearance of vast fortunes.
Lately, as devoted to education as I am (having greatly enjoyed lots of it, and having been employed in various capacities in educating others), I’ve begun to ask the same question - education - in what?
I’ve wondered if the do gooders who are advocating that everyone earn at least a Bachelor’s degree aren’t perpetrating a cruel hoax on many people. For increasing numbers, what they get for it is crushing debt from student loans, and anything but a secure future.
I look forward with interest to your next post in this thread.
Mike..
One thing, you always give me something to think about.. Now,I have to wait until tomorrow..
Something along this line is a book you might find interesting.. Dumbing Us Down, by John Gatto.. I found it interesting about our education system.. He feels it’s more about other things, than education..
Wma
Employment data is nearly worthless as it deals only with application for, or discontinuances of, unemployment insurance along with questionable data that suggests the numbers of job gains and losses.
What is does not deal with is the very real fact that the U.S. needs to add some 180,000 jobs per month to stay even!
Consider that 125,000 legal immigrants enter this country each and every month looking for work. Those who never had work, are not counted as they are not qualified for unemployment.
Well, definitely no education in the field of agriculture. Per Al Gore, if you are in agriculture, get out. If you are thinking about getting into agriculture, don’t. According to Gore, agriculture is for 3rd world countries.
I suppose it is not that bad of a plan to have our potential enemies feed us until we are, ourselves a 3rd world country.
Maybe just a good dose of common sense would be the best education to invest in, in these times?
The hardest part for me in all of this, is that our elected officials will do nothing positive about any of this. They have nothing to gain by risking their positions of power.
Gila,
I went through all the class enrollment material and can’t find that course on common sense that you talk about.
I did stumble on to some old guys writing about common sense, his name was Thomas Paine and it started like this; “Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour; a long habit of not thinking a thing WRONG, gives it a superficial appearance of being RIGHT, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason.”
May we hope that another Tom Paine exists in America.
Well, much of Dr. Paul’s reasoning is along the same lines. But it is my belief that Paine hit it dead on when he said, “Time makes more converts than reason”. We just have not had enough time for any real dose of pain to settle in yet. If you consider the fact that most people have not been aware of the things you reference in your book until the past year or so, this makes a lot of sense.
Gila,
I’ve always loved Thomas Paine’s Common Sense and keep it bookmarked for a read every now and then. There is something very comforting in Paine’s writing that ground a person to the greater truths that made America…America.
Hey Mike! This is one of those damned if you do and damned if you don’t problems. If we educated all of our usable workers for the existing/necessary jobs it would stand a better chance of working out properly. Instead we end up with millions of lawyers and accountants which feed off of each other and us. If all jobs paid a more equal amounts then we would not have this mad rush to take only the high paying jobs. This would be very difficult to achieve. We have the same problems in our land usage. If we were smart we would use the fertile land for food crops, the less fertile land for fuel crops, and the rest for homes and industry. But, of course, that would be the smart way of doing things and being human we resort to a much less intelligent way of getting things done. And naturally there is always greed as you mentioned that really throws a kink in efficiency. I suppose some readers are thinking that this sounds like communism. It really does not have to be but knowing the preordained leanings of the human being it would probably end up that way. You would think intelligence would come naturally to an animal such as us but it just seems to be just the opposite. Have your self a nice one Mike!
Michael,
Thanks for the comment. Your suggestions could only work with intelligent life, which rules out humans!
We are quickly running out of world oil, an event that I believe will the most damaging of our lifetime.
Did we plan for the end of oil? Heck no, we planned to use more. So much for planning, greed and power will always trump common sense.